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  <title>Australians All</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 05:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>The Age</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 05:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Leibler, who in 1981 described Malcolm Fraser as one of the greatest defenders of Israel, now calls the former prime minister &#8220;a great disappointment to the Jewish community&#8221;.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Leibler, who in 1981 described Malcolm Fraser as one of the greatest defenders of Israel, now calls the former prime minister &#8220;a great disappointment to the Jewish community&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Wall Street Journal</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 05:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>juliegleeson</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Australians All supporter Graeme Leonard suggests reading this article from The Wall Street Journal about how both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are absolutely convinced of the correctness of their mutually exclusive views and agendas. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australians All supporter Graeme Leonard suggests reading this article from <em>The Wall Street Journal</em> about how both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are absolutely convinced of the correctness of their mutually exclusive views and agendas. </p>
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		<title>onlkine opinion</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 05:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>juliegleeson</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The relationship of Islam to modern democracy - or rather, the assumption of its incompatibility with it - has once again been under the spotlight in Australia.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The relationship of Islam to modern democracy - or rather, the assumption of its incompatibility with it - has once again been under the spotlight in Australia.</p>
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		<title>Time for an honest debate</title>
		<link>http://www.australiansall.com.au/time-for-an-honest-debate/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 05:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Fraser</dc:creator>
		
		<category>General</category>

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		<description><![CDATA[It is time Israel and America learnt that if a country has confidence in itself, in the justice of its objectives, talking with people involves no risk.  It does not mean that you agree to something contrary to your principles or to your own fundamental security but it is an essential tool in the search for peace.  Failure to talk represents lack of confidence, lack of conviction and a weakness that can have tragic consequences. I know there are members of the Jewish community in Australia who do not agree with the views vehemently expressed by the Lobby but they are deterred, by one means of another from entering the debate.  It would be an important advance if they were able to find a voice and debate these issues.  They are too important to allow the usual spokesman free rein.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time Israel and America learnt that if a country has confidence in itself, in the justice of its objectives, talking with people involves no risk.  It does not mean that you agree to something contrary to your principles or to your own fundamental security but it is an essential tool in the search for peace.  Failure to talk represents lack of confidence, lack of conviction and a weakness that can have tragic consequences. I know there are members of the Jewish community in Australia who do not agree with the views vehemently expressed by the Lobby but they are deterred, by one means of another from entering the debate.  It would be an important advance if they were able to find a voice and debate these issues.  They are too important to allow the usual spokesman free rein.</p>
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		<title>I wonder what happened to the ethical Israel I used to know</title>
		<link>http://www.australiansall.com.au/i-wonder-what-happened-to-the-ethical-israel-i-used-to-know/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 05:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Fraser</dc:creator>
		
		<category>General</category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I am glad Mark Leibler, spokesman for the Jewish Lobby, has responded to my article concerning Israel and Palestine.  The arguments he brings forward are shallow and stale.  His reference to Hitler, as was President Bush’s yesterday, was totally absurd.  When the Lobby runs out of arguments, they attack the person.  That is precisely what has happened on this occasion.  Overall it demonstrates a total lack of belief in a future peace and an unwillingness to search for that peace.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad Mark Leibler, spokesman for the Jewish Lobby, has responded to my article concerning Israel and Palestine.  The arguments he brings forward are shallow and stale.  His reference to Hitler, as was President Bush’s yesterday, was totally absurd.  When the Lobby runs out of arguments, they attack the person.  That is precisely what has happened on this occasion.  Overall it demonstrates a total lack of belief in a future peace and an unwillingness to search for that peace.  </p>

<p>He makes no mention of the boundaries of a Palestinian state.  If it were the ´67 boundaries there would be no argument, but that cannot be because of Jewish settlements which continue to expand.  Leibler brushes aside my reference to those settlements as trivial but, in recent times, Condoleeza Rice, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, European Union’s Foreign Policy Chief Xavier Solana, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and Germany have all expressed concern at Jewish actions.  Ban Ki-Moon said that Jewish actions were “contrary to Israel’s obligations”.  Sarkozy “deplored”; Germany  “condemned”.  I am in good company in being concerned.  It is a major obstacle to peace which Leibler refuses to recognise. </p>

<p>His reference to Gaza is inaccurate.  It was a unilateral action which had much more to do with demography than it did to finding a solution to the problem.  It was a necessary act for Israel to preserve a Jewish majority in Israel itself.</p>

<p>He brushes aside the arguments about the IRA as “inappropriate”.  He does not mention the discussions between the United States and the Soviet Union.  The Soviet Union was committed to the destruction of democracy and to the death of America, but America would sit down and negotiate with that same power to see if there could be areas of agreement.  There were and, little by little, the world became safer.</p>

<p>That example by all previous American Presidents, with courage to talk with one’s enemy, remains an essential pre-requisite in the current situation.  That was recognised in the Baker-Hamilton Report on Iraq last year.</p>

<p>Leibler shows no concern for the great number of Palestinians killed.  Israel’s answer has indeed been disproportionate and heavy handed.  He justifies Israeli action by saying that it must be examined in “context”.  This is why many people’s attitude to Israel has changed.  It has abandoned the ethical approach so evident in earlier days.</p>

<p>The attitudes depicted in this response will result in continued conflict, continued warfare, continued terrorism.  It is time Israel and America learnt that if a country has confidence in itself, in the justice of its objectives, talking with people involves no risk.  It does not mean that you agree to something contrary to your principles or to your own fundamental security but it is an essential tool in the search for peace.  Failure to talk represents lack of confidence, lack of conviction and a weakness that can have tragic consequences.</p>

<p>I know there are members of the Jewish community in Australia who do not agree with the views vehemently expressed by the Lobby but they are deterred, by one means of another from entering the debate.  It would be an important advance if they were able to find a voice and debate these issues.  They are too important to allow the usual spokesman free rein.</p>
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		<title>Hard-nosed leader goes soft on Hamas</title>
		<link>http://www.australiansall.com.au/hard-nosed-leader-goes-soft-on-hamas/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 05:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Leibler</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Malcolm Fraser's opinion piece in last Saturday's Age was marred by contradictions, factual errors and a naivete about world events inconsistent with the hard-nosed, realistic prime minister I knew in the 1970s and '80s.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malcolm Fraser&#8217;s opinion piece in last Saturday&#8217;s Age was marred by contradictions, factual errors and a naivete about world events inconsistent with the hard-nosed, realistic prime minister I knew in the 1970s and &#8217;80s.</p>

<p>Mr Fraser implied that the problem in the Middle East is principally Israeli settlement building, and the main solution is direct Israeli talks with Hamas.</p>

<p>Yet Israel is not building any new West Bank settlements, and has not for many years. The current controversy involves a few hundred apartments within a few existing settlements, taking no additional land. It is absurd to see these few homes as the principal roadblock. After all, Israel withdrew all settlements from Gaza in 2005 and has been rewarded with rocket attacks.</p>

<p>Meanwhile, Fraser argues, negotiating with Hamas would provide them with &#8220;an alternative to violence&#8221;. However, an alternative offering a seat at the diplomatic table has long been available, but rejected by Hamas leaders.</p>

<p>Fraser implies that because Hamas won a plurality in the 2006 election, it must be treated as a negotiating partner. However, Hamas&#8217; democratic credentials were hardly boosted by its violent Gaza coup last year — the result of long-standing internal Palestinian rivalries, not, as Fraser claims, something that Israel and the US somehow forced Hamas into.</p>

<p>More importantly, the diplomatic boycott imposed by the vast majority of the international community — including the UN and EU, not just America and Israel — was not against Hamas per se, but against its policies. Hamas insists on acting as a terrorist organisation eternally at war with Israel. Thus it is treated as one. Hitler also took power democratically. Should we therefore have let him invade Poland and murder Europe&#8217;s Jews?</p>

<p>Israel and the international community have made it clear they are prepared to engage with Hamas if it renounces terrorism and recognises Israel&#8217;s right to exist and previous Israeli-Palestinian peace agreements.</p>

<p>In government, Fraser fully supported a comparable Western policy opposing direct engagement with the Palestine Liberation Organisation until it met similar minimum conditions.</p>

<p>Parallels with Northern Ireland are nonsensical because the IRA never sought to destroy Britain, as Hamas explicitly does Israel, and forswore terrorism for a place in negotiations.</p>

<p>Fraser accuses Israel&#8217;s supporters of not believing Hamas. On the contrary, we do believe its charter and its ongoing statements regarding its genocidal plans for Israel — backed materially by an Iran that also wants to &#8220;wipe Israel off the map&#8221;. Its violent actions prove they are not mere rhetoric.</p>

<p>Indeed, Hamas rejects direct negotiation with Israel. It only says it might support an agreement with Israel negotiated by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas if approved by a referendum involving Palestinians worldwide. Further, Hamas leaders add that such arrangements must only be &#8220;transitional&#8221; (presumably, pending Israel&#8217;s destruction) and do not necessarily promise to abide by the agreement. How is this helpful?</p>

<p>Hamas&#8217; proposed &#8220;ceasefire&#8221; is widely recognised, based on the statements of Hamas leaders, as a ploy to gain time to consolidate its Islamic dictatorship and military power in Gaza. Why would Israel agree to such a ceasefire if its terms simply allow Hamas to position itself for more effective and &#8220;efficient&#8221; terrorism later?</p>

<p>Mr Fraser implies that Israel has lost the moral high ground because more Palestinians than Israelis have died in the conflict in recent years.</p>

<p>But this numerical difference is entirely a matter of capability. Hamas is trying to kill as many Israeli civilians as possible — children, women, the elderly — limited only by Israel&#8217;s largely successful countermeasures.</p>

<p>Israel only targets those waging war on Israeli civilians and soldiers. It isn&#8217;t easy because Palestinian terrorists illegally shelter among the Palestinian populace, leading to occasional regrettable civilian casualties.</p>

<p>This calculus whereby one simply counts the dead without context implies that when Hamas fires rockets into Israel&#8217;s civilian towns, destroys people&#8217;s homes, makes normal daily life impossible and causes injuries — but doesn&#8217;t actually kill anyone — Israel should not shoot back at the rocket teams. It might unbalance the &#8220;score&#8221;! Under this ridiculous approach, why would Hamas ever stop firing rockets at Israel?</p>

<p>The way forward, of course, is to persuade Palestinian extremists that violence, suicide terror and rocket attacks are counter-productive, and to support a two-state solution. The Howard government recognised this, the Rudd Government recognises this, and the bipartisan parliamentary motion saluting Israel&#8217;s 60th anniversary in March explicitly called for this outcome. But they also recognise something else which should not be obscured in the name of &#8220;even-handedness&#8221; — Israel offered a two-state solution in 1948, at Oslo in 1993, at Camp David in 2000 and at Annapolis last year. Moreover, polls consistently show that Israeli public opinion overwhelmingly supports this goal. Right now, the Olmert Government and the democratically elected Mahmoud Abbas are negotiating a &#8220;framework agreement&#8221; outlining such a resolution.</p>

<p>There is no indication that this goal will be achieved by engaging with or appeasing Hamas before it meets the sensible conditions set by the international community. Worse, every attempt to engage and legitimise Hamas makes it more difficult for Abbas to make the compromises needed for a genuine peace.</p>

<p>To move forward, Hamas must adopt the conditions set by the international community, or else be marginalised in Palestinian society. Achieving either will require enormous patience, toughness and realism, qualities the Malcolm Fraser I used to know always exhibited. I wonder what happened to him.</p>
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		<title>A Unique Opportunity for Australia</title>
		<link>http://www.australiansall.com.au/a-unique-opportunity-for-australia/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 04:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ameer Ali</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, we need to get more balanced in our approach to the Middle East. We have to accept the fact that there has been a paradigmic change in the geopolitics of the region with the revival of Shiite Islam and the influence of Iran. The more we veer towards the Israeli dictated American policy we are certain to alienate the majority of the Muslims in the region and outside. Australia has a unique opportunity to play the role of an honest broker if we distance ourselves from the US-Israeli agenda. Indonesia and Malaysia will throw their weight with us if we decide to take a balanced approach. The Israeli lobby in Australia country seems to be having a stranglehold in the successive political regimes of this nation. Why?     ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we need to get more balanced in our approach to the Middle East. We have to accept the fact that there has been a paradigmic change in the geopolitics of the region with the revival of Shiite Islam and the influence of Iran. The more we veer towards the Israeli dictated American policy we are certain to alienate the majority of the Muslims in the region and outside. Australia has a unique opportunity to play the role of an honest broker if we distance ourselves from the US-Israeli agenda. Indonesia and Malaysia will throw their weight with us if we decide to take a balanced approach. The Israeli lobby in Australia country seems to be having a stranglehold in the successive political regimes of this nation. Why?     </p>

<p>We should make our voice clear that we support a two-state solution in principle but the following conditions must be satisfied:(a) Israel must remove its settlements from West Bank and Gaza (b) negotiate its permanent territorial borders with the Arab community and after that Israel&#8217;s security must be guaranteed by the international community (c) Jerusalem must be an Abrahamic territory managed by the Abrahamic community, and (d) a partial return of the Palestine refugees to their homeland should be allowed with cash inducement to those refugees who want to settle outside Palestine.</p>
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		<title>Ali Abunimah SMH</title>
		<link>http://www.australiansall.com.au/ali-abunimah-smh/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>juliegleeson</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[“There are only two real options: to deny history and take comfort in an airbrushed story that paints Israelis as brave, divinely inspired pioneers in a desert devoid of indigenous people and beset by external enemies, or to own up to the consequences and support the enormous redress needed to bring justice and peace.” Ali [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“There are only two real options: to deny history and take comfort in an airbrushed story that paints Israelis as brave, divinely inspired pioneers in a desert devoid of indigenous people and beset by external enemies, or to own up to the consequences and support the enormous redress needed to bring justice and peace.” Ali Abunimah in the <em>Sydney Morning Herald</em></p>
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		<title>William Kristol NYT</title>
		<link>http://www.australiansall.com.au/william-kristol-nyt/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>juliegleeson</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[“In 2008, the defense of the state of Israel, and everything it stands for, requires a kind of courage and determination very much out of accord with the perpetual click-clack of our politics, and with the combination of irresponsibility and wishfulness that characterizes the age in which we live.” William Kristol in the New York [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“In 2008, the defense of the state of Israel, and everything it stands for, requires a kind of courage and determination very much out of accord with the perpetual click-clack of our politics, and with the combination of irresponsibility and wishfulness that characterizes the age in which we live.” William Kristol in the <em>New York Times</em></p>
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		<title>Margaret Simons Crikey</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Labor is being tougher and more ruthless with asylum seekers than the Howard Government, according to an analysis of decisions made by the new Minister for Immigration, Senator Chris Evans.” Margaret Simons in Crikey
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Labor is being tougher and more ruthless with asylum seekers than the Howard Government, according to an analysis of decisions made by the new Minister for Immigration, Senator Chris Evans.” Margaret Simons in <em>Crikey</em></p>
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